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   <title><![CDATA[Problems with NDR : ok got it. My system was set to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=247">ImInAfrica</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6965<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 June 2011 at 4:59pm<br /><br />ok got it. My system was set to send NDR via the same SMTP that is accepting the emails. I have found the entry called:<div><br></div><div>NotificationSMTPServer=</div><div><br></div><div>and have entered another smtp server address. Hopefully this won't happen again.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you Roberto.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Problems with NDR :  The message being logged &amp;#034;Your...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=8">LogSat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6965<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 June 2011 at 10:03pm<br /><br />The message being logged "<span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; "><b style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" color="#ff0000" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Your message was received but it could not be saved. Please retry later</font></b></span>" is what SpamFilter received when forwarding both the original email to the destination SMTP server for that recipient's domain (<span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">pop.bluelightit.com</span>) and then to your default destination SMTP server when SpamFilter attempted to deliver the NDR (<span Apple-style-span="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">my.mailserver.com</span>).<div><br></div><div>What SpamFilter does when receiving an error when forwarding to your destination SMTP server depends on the kind of error that your mail server output - a 400 error or a 500 error. How SpamFilter behaves in this case is determined by the following settings in the SpamFilter.ini file:</div><div><br></div><div><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana; line-height: normal; font-size: 13px; "><p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000066"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">;Determines if SpamFilter should hold in the queue emails that were rejected by the destination SMTP server with an error in the 4xy range</span></font></p><p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000066"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">QueueIfDestinationError400=true</span></font></p><p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000066"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></font></p><p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000066"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">;Determines if SpamFilter should hold in the queue emails that were rejected by the destination SMTP server with an error in the 5xy range</span></font></p><p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#000066"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">QueueIfDestinationError500=false</span></font></p></span></div><div><br></div><div>If your destination SMTP server is offline completely and unreachable, SpamFilter will queue the emails until it is back online.</div><div><br></div><div>The NDR email to the sender is thus sent if one of the above settings is set to "false" and is triggered, meaning the email is not queued for re-delivery. For example, with the settings above, if your destination SMTP server rejects SpamFilter's email with 500 error, then SpamFilter will not queue the email for re-delivery and will send the NDR. This NDR email is forwarded to your default SMTP server for delivery. If however your default SMTP server rejects this NDR, SpamFilter will <b>not</b>&nbsp;queue the NDR for delivery and will give up trying.</div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Problems with NDR : Hi,Below please see part of log...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.logsat.com/spamfilter/forums/member_profile.asp?PF=247">ImInAfrica</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6965<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 June 2011 at 2:15pm<br /><br /><div><div><div>Hi,</div><div>Below please see part of log from our SF installation.</div><div>We had an incidence where a specific mail server run out of disk space. the mail server reacted correctly by declining the message. SF acknowledged it, and acted correctly, BUT couldn't send the NDR back. I have marked the line in RED below.</div><div>Has anyone seen anything like this before?</div><div><br></div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:460 -- (3072) RCPT TO: user@mydomain.com accepted</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) EMail from sender@senderdomain.com to user@mydomain.com passes Bayesian filter - 0% spam &nbsp;(15ms)</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) Checking SURBL</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) Checking URLs in emails against MAPS</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) - URLs In MAPS search done...&nbsp;</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) Start virus scan</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) Starting queueing procedures</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (3072) EMail from sender@senderdomain.com to user@mydomain.com was queued. Size: 1 KB, 1024 bytes</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:585 -- (5472) Sending email from sender@senderdomain.com to user@mydomain.com --&nbsp;</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:726 -- (5472) EMail from: sender@senderdomain.com to: user@mydomain.com -- &nbsp;was returned to sender - server error - pop.bluelightit.com:25 said: Your message was received but it could not be saved. Please retry later. --&nbsp;</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:742 -- (3072) Starting bayesian procedures</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:757 -- (3652) Time to add Msg to Bayes corpus:0</div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:820 -- (3072) Disconnect</div><div><b><font ="Apple-style-span" color="#ff0000">06/17/11 10:55:03:867 -- (5472) There was an error sending the NDR: Your message was received but it could not be saved. Please retry later. --&nbsp;</font></b></div><div>06/17/11 10:55:03:867 -- (5472) server error - my.mailserver.com:25 said: Your message was received but it could not be saved. Please retry later. --&nbsp;</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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