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Hillard Sarver
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Posted: 12 March 2004 at 9:58am |
Oh no a problem. Have been using version 1.+ of SpamFilter since sometime in August of last year without a problem. Yesterday I upgraded to the new 2.0.1.302 version and this morning SpamFilter service ate all my memory and was maxing the CPU at 100%. I remember reading in the forum someone else had this problem and removed the service and did it in stand alone mode to fix it. I did that for now. Any other things to try? I really do not want to run it in stand alone mode for too long. Hillard
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Okay running in stand alone mode did not help. SpamFilter program took all my memory and maxed out the CPU again. I set the bayesian filter to 0% to see if that helps. Hillard
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Sean
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COPY AND PASTE (AND MODIFIED) FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE BY ME: Check ensure you are actually running MDAC 2.8, and it has not been corrupted? SpamFilter users (Including myself) have found using the MDAC Component Checker that their install of MDAC had been down-revved by other applications (our culprit was Crystal Reports). Reinstalling MDAC 2.8, or higher should fix all leak issues (we are using MDAC 2.8 with no problems). |
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Hillard Sarver
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Thanks, I downloaded and installed the MDAC 2.8. Hopefully that will fix the problem. After install I ran the CC and it verified MDAC 2.8, I did not run it before install I am pretty sure I had version 2.6 something and not 2.8.
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Hillard Sarver
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Okay the MDAC 2.8 upgrade did not help, after a few hours the CPU maxs and the memory usage triples. Any other ideas? Might have to go back to version 1, will really miss the attachment filter :( Hillard
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Sean
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Did you restart the server after install MDAC 2.8? What version of Windows you using, and what type of Database?
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Hillard Sarver
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Yes restarted server. Windows NT 4.0 with all patches. What I did was set bayesian to 0% and after a few minutes the CPU and memory usage went back to normal levels. It seems as long as I leave the bayesian off I am okay. Oh, the database I am using is Access, I would think that is the next thing that might be causing the problem? Hillard |
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I would suggest upgrading to Windows 2000 server at the minimum. How much memory do you have. Is the server an older one or is it new? I have not had any of the problems you describe and have been running SF 2.302/MSSQL MDAC 2.8 since it was released. I know that when I ran SF 1.2 on an NT 4.0 server it was rather slow. Once I put it on the 2000 server everything ran fast and error free. I would also suggest using SQL instead of Access. Moving the data storage off the local hard drive will improve performance tremendously. When using Access the hard drive will have twice as much activity since both the queue folder and the database file will be written to at nearly or at the same time. |
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Desperado
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Hillard, Can you "indulge me"? Please run wth the "Disable Connections Grid" check box NOT set and when the cpu goes high, are there a lot of RCPT TO's that are not going away? Also, make sure that you go to the quarantine grid and "hide" the quarantine. Thanks, Dan S. (SpamFilter User) |
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Hillard Sarver
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>Can you "indulge me"? Please run wth the "Disable Connections Grid" check box NOT >set and when the cpu goes high, are there a lot of RCPT TO's that are not going away? >Also, make sure that you go to the quarantine grid and "hide" the quarantine. Okay, I had both disabled or turned off. I have turned back on the connections grid to watch it. I do remember when it hits seeing a lot of "Current Outbound Connections" and "Current Inbound Connections" when the problem is occuring. Disable the bayesian and the numbers start coming down in a few minutes and so does the CPU and memory usage. One other person recommended putting the quarantine on another server instead of the spam filter box and I know Access is not as good as SQL (I have some MySQL servers running that if I have to I can put the quarantine on them, I just was trying to keep it all on one server). Hillard
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Hillard Sarver
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Oh, as I a side note when I turned connection grid back on all connections to the spam filter quit. I restarted the service and it was okay, not sure why that happened? Also noticed even though I had the bayesian turned of my server was using 360MB (it has 515MB) and when I restarted the spam filter service memory went down to 100MB. I must have a memory leak going on with the spam filter service. Again someone mentioned moving from NT (which is what it is and has been since August with version 1+) to 2000. Hillard
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Desperado
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Hillard, I know nothing about access except that it has issues if it gets very large. I am running MS-SQL on the same server as SpamFilter and have no problems in that area. What I am looking for is with Bayes enabled, do you show a ton of "Stale" connections that do not seem to go away when your problem is happening? If so, please email me directly at daseligmann at hotmail dot com. We may have a common issue that has no obvious (yet) cause. Also, do you have a feel for what your total daily message volume is? And do you receive LOTS of large (10Meg plus) attachments? Regards, Dan S. |
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I would go to Windows 2000 or 2003, if possible. If not, at least get away from Access (which version, btw?) I'd go with MSDE or MySQL. Version 2 of the SpamFilter flies under 2000 and 2003, using MSSQL, MSDE or MySQL... |
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You should be able to run the database on the same box without issue. |
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LogSat
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Hillard, We are in the process of testing internally build 306 which should help solve some memory issues. While it still has not been officially released, we have placed a link to it in the registered user's area. Could you please try this build to see if it solves any problems? Roberto F. |
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Desperado
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Hillard, In addition to what Roberto suggests (the 306) I really do not see that NT VS 2000 is an issue. The 306 build addresses the issue I was eluding to in my previous post but I seemed to have the ONLY server having an issue that seems similar to yours. I was hoping to find some similar quirk in our setups that would explain this. I am on Win-2K so, again, I do not think NT is the issue. Try the 306 Build as Roberto said. I have been running that build and have been reporting directly back to LogSat any operational Details. Also, depending on the Database size, 512Meg MAY be a tad light. I allow MS-SQL 1GIG and have 2GIGs on the server but I have a fairly large DB and somewhat highis traffic ... 50K messeges/day and am running 8 SpamFilter instances on the same machine. Regards, Dan S. |
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Dan B
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Wow, that is a lot of memory being used by SF. Dan B
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Hillard Sarver
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I installed the 306 patch and still got the same problem. Another thing is even when I have the bayesian filter enabled I fail to see any messages marked as being found by it, only my keyword, other blacklists and reverse dns marked messages. My corpus is Spam=29171 and Good=56842; however, still nothing marked by it when I have it enabled. Is this because I have keyword filter entries? Hillard
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Scratch my last sentence in the post before this one. I did find some bayesian marked messages in the quarantine before I had to turn it off. Hillard
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