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    Posted: 21 June 2006 at 8:19am
It seems that SPF checking with records that contain the redirect keyword doesn't work. Consistently when SF checks for gmail.com (by way of example) SPF records the following happens:

06-21-06 07:01:55:628 -- (63392) Connection from: 207.36.160.234  -  Originating country : United States
06-21-06 07:01:58:222 -- (63392) found SPF record for gmail.com: v=spf1 redirect=_spf.google.com
06-21-06 07:01:58:222 -- (63392) SPF query result: unknown
06-21-06 07:01:58:222 -- (63392) - SPF analysis for gmail.com done: - unknown

And no SPF check is performed. Unfortunately there are quite a few spam messages getting through with forged gmail.com addresses that could have been blocked.

When I check the DNS server that our SF uses for the TXT record of _spf.google.com it works okay:
> set type=txt
> _spf.google.com
Server:  xxx.yyy.zz
Address:  172.16.1.11

Non-authoritative answer:
_spf.google.com text =

        "v=spf1 ip4:216.239.56.0/23 ip4:64.233.160.0/19 ip4:66.249.80.0/20 ip4:72.14.192.0/18 ?all"

Then again, it also happens with other domains that use redirect in their SPF records:

06-21-06 13:14:10:753 -- (125396) Connection from: 212.204.245.91  -  Originating country : Netherlands
06-21-06 13:14:10:800 -- (125396) found SPF record for your.hp.com: v=spf1 redirect=hp.m0.net
06-21-06 13:14:10:800 -- (125396) SPF query result: unknown
06-21-06 13:14:10:800 -- (125396) - SPF analysis for your.hp.com done: - unknown

So it seems that SF doesn't process the redirect keyword correctly. Are more people experiencing this or is it just me somehow?
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No, it's not just you - I'm seeing the same thing. Here an example for gmx.ch:

06.20.06 01:17:52:884 -- (17876) Connection from: 213.165.64.21  -  Originating country : Germany
06.20.06 01:17:53:337 -- (17876) found SPF record for gmx.ch: v=spf1 redirect=gmx.net
06.20.06 01:17:53:337 -- (17876) SPF query result: unknown
06.20.06 01:17:53:337 -- (17876) - SPF analysis for gmx.ch done: - unknown

I'm seeing the google.com example as well. Didn't notice this before, because I wasn't looking for it, but I guess other users can confirm this quickly as well. Just do a search for 'redirect' in yesterday's log file for example.
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Confirmed:

06/20/06 03:58:01:656 -- (30012) found SPF record for mp.opensrs.net: v=spf1 redirect=spf.webmaillogin.com
06/20/06 03:58:01:656 -- (30012) SPF query result: unknown
06/20/06 03:58:01:656 -- (30012) - SPF analysis for mp.opensrs.net done: - unknown
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 9:58am
Okay, thanks for checking guys. It's officially a bug now I guess.

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06/13/06 14:21:51:913 -- (16203) found SPF record for thomson.com: v=spf1 redirect=_spf.thomson.com
06/13/06 14:21:51:944 -- (16203) SPF query result: unknown
06/13/06 14:21:51:960 -- (16203) - SPF analysis for thomson.com done: - unknown

yup.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LogSat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 1:32pm
..wer'e still checking to see what's wrong. So far it does look like a bug, as soon as we find out more I'll post the details (and the ETA for a patch if confirmed bug)
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We're testing the patch now, it will be released within the next 6/24 hours.

Thanks to everyone for helping identifying and isolating this!
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lol, you're too funny! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mikek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2006 at 3:03am
updated to .578:

06.26.06 08:31:51:259 -- (15064) found SPF record for gmail.com: v=spf1 redirect=_spf.google.com
06.26.06 08:31:51:291 -- (15064) found SPF record for _spf.google.com: v=spf1 ip4:216.239.56.0/23 ip4:64.233.160.0/19 ip4:66.249.80.0/20 ip4:72.14.192.0/18 ?all
06.26.06 08:31:51:291 -- (15064) SPF query result: pass
06.26.06 08:31:51:291 -- (15064) - SPF analysis for _spf.google.com done: - pass
06.26.06 08:31:51:291 -- (15064) SPF query result: pass
06.26.06 08:31:51:291 -- (15064) - SPF analysis for gmail.com done: - pass

great job! keep up the good work!
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